From: Grandpa To: T S
Subject: Re: 4.0 Date: Thu, 10/15/2009 - 9:22pm
I will repeat what I said to Hous. I will leave out the last two sentences, it is up to her if she wants me to include it, or she wants to send it to you:
"Twice I left 4.0 with the intention of treating it like the original Liberal Sugar (no point in going and less point in commenting). Both times I was asked to come back to respond to nasty comments thrown at conservatives The first was one of the young ladies that admitted she was too intimidated by Steph, to reply, the other a request to come and show support, because it was a four to one attack, and she wanted help.
Believe me I have no illusions about the fairness or anything resembling an even handedness in 4.0, and would just as soon not go there, but as long as the few other conservatives are making comments, I will look in, and every now and then comment, particularly when invited/asked."
It seems there are still a few who read 4.0 and are intimidated by the likes of Steph and her pals. Unless I get the request and the link, i am not over in 4.0.
It is a shame, When 4.0 was set up I thought it would be a place for a free expression of ideas. You guys allowed Steph to destroy that, whether by unfortunate set of circumstances, or an inherent bias towards the liberals. "
The so called "anti 4.0 group" is a closed group to allow the otherwise intimidated to speak their mind or express an opinion without the risk of being denigrated. if my plans were to set up an anti 4.0 group, i would have made it public, and make regular pointed comments on the postings and comments made on your 4.0. Your frankly not worth my time nor my effort needed to follow liberal 4.0, any more then it would have been worth my effort to follow the old liberal sugar site. Oh and feel free to share any of my PMs addressed to either you or hous.
> Grandpa, > > You can form an anti-4.0 group and badmouth me, haus, and the group as a whole, or you can come participate in the discussion. I don't think it's appropriate to do both. > > Also, please feel free to share any PM I send you. You said you didn't feel comfortable, but it's fine with me. When I send PM's it's because I don't want to air things in public or embarrass the person I'm sending a message to, not because I'm ever ashamed of anything I've said. > > Thanks, > TS
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Golly....TS is not ashamed.
Funny...she bumped me off 4.0 without even saying "boo" to me. NO explanation what-so-ever. I haven't PM'd her about it because....well....I don't want to take part in a group that is THAT unethical.
1They never contacted me at the time i was booted. I was sent a link, and asked to post a comment, which i did. The posting was strictly objective and addressed the posting topic. I made no mention of any 4.0 member, nor did I make mention of any other comments in my comment, nor have i been back to check on any responses.
2I would never go into 4.0 again. I did twice, and both times was slammed to the floor like a rookie in roller derby as I was a newbie and had no idea that 4.0 was a place that was run by four certain people and if you didn't agree with them - you were like a cat in a corner facing a group of hungry hounds and that open discussion was not welcome - especially by someone new.
I tried a second time just because an article looked interesting to me, but, same thing. Therefore, I decided 4.0 wasn't a place for me as I don't get into bullying and ganging up on individuals just because they don't have the same opinion.
Debate: noun. 13th Century Definition: A regulated discussion of a proposition between two matched sides.
(matched) is the key word here.
It is laughable that someone has the gal to state that you are welcome to join the discussion when you've already been there and KNOW how the discussion will turn out and tired of getting slammed to the floor for no reason whatsoever.
3Oh, and God forbid you actually post an article....
4LOL....yeah because their "criteria" for what passes as a post is laughable. Seriously. I have seen mad rants there which were received with open arms BUT God forbid you paste an article for interest of the whole group and be smacked for misspelled words...lack of a source.
It is manic delusion to consider that forum as a comprehensive political group...yet we allow them to continue in that delusion by leaving them to their own destruction.
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7OK, cheeky, can I presume a mispost here?
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